hmmm
why is it so hard for you to let a database that is not yours return to its original community?

i mean the data was submitted to TLR and actually u are wrong with the statement that it is copyrighted to lancersreactor.com and that godaddy would hold the copyright.
only natural persons or companies can hold rights by law and in case of websites the owner of the domain holds the right on the data. Only that owner is allowed to hand over rights to the next owner. This has been done, from BP to mentalchaos to azza and finally to me.
This is btw. law in almost every country on this planet (china and north korea excluded).
Right now the FL archives violates the copyright laws, the data privacy law (in somewhat more than 20.000 cases) and several laws regarding property.
So actually we can continue to argue over it which might lead to unpleasant results or we agree to let this personal crap drop finally and think about what is good for FL.

Is this possible or do we really have to go on this way?

1. You want that i dont bring up the past any longer? OK, you can have that. No such posts anymore here and on other sites.
2. In exchange I want that you stop bashing other FL sites including the SWAT Portal and TLR.
3. You want that I allow links to TSP and place links to it on my sites. You can have that.
4. In exchange I clearly want that the FL databases that you currently host gets removed. It will become part of the current TLR site where it will serve the purpose to bring new and old FL players to the Freelancer community. You will be able to access all the data that you can access now and even more as I am able to restore even more.
Right now you only use that archive to read on old threads, I will use it to bring old and new players to FL. Players that might end up on your servers. If you dont want to raise the daily freelancer player base by 50 players or 100 or more then just say it.

This is the deal i want to offer. A deal where no side does loose something but both can win.
So like LS said can we finally "STOP" it?

.... oh my .... OP doesn't only think, he the one and only Hero of Freelancer,
but also top lawyer for international copyright.

I wonder how he can find time, to post so much 'funny' things here (and there),
while he is supposed to earn a 750 bucks an hour
25 hours 8 days a week.

It's so fascinating!

I dont understand why you insist on us taking down the archive. Wouldnt it be better for the holy FL community that the archived posts are available at two locations, creating redundancy in case a site fails?

Next thing you will ask for are the downloads. And then, you will ask for any content ever originally released on TLR to be removed here.

You sure have only the benefit of the whole FL community in mind, I'm dead sure.

i have to agree. there is noone who would ever deny OP to host the same contents or the original TLR contents on TLR. but there is really no reason to take them down from here. many newcomers still learn on them here. if he doesn't want that, what is he after then? the more crafts we have for modding purposes, the more intensively we can concentrate them each in a certain category. who knows, maybe one day many of us will work together on a project instead of people like OP or gibbon or me, who work alone. isn't that logical? efficiency?

no w0dk4
keep the downloads, demanding them would damage TSP aswell as other FL sites and thats not in my interest

i just want the the hosting of that database transfered to TLR as the rights aswell as the responsibilty (a website owner also has duties regarding the data) over that database has been transfered to me.
I already told you that you dont need to destroy that database and that if I fail with TLR you can bring it up again.

You have no loss at all.

No.

So, In the FOX Drama of this, I'm thinking Mel Gibson to play OP.
Either that or Paris Hilton.

Sushi will be Brad Pitt, for his devilish good looks.