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Deletion Warnings
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The following sites may be deleted in the coming month, this is their last warning:

General

http://evilempirerevolution.forumotion.net/portal.htm
(bar seems to be broken)

Freelancer Gaming Zone
(dead)

http://www.spacesimcentral.com/
(not showing bar)

http://www.dbb.at/aurora/modules/news/
(this site will be moved to server/mod links since I dont understand why they are under general/fansite links)

Server/Mod

http://www.aurora-freelancer.com/
(dead)

http://colonialwars.ch.vu/
(not showing bar)

http://www.discoveryfluk.com/
(not showing bar)

http://www.frag-force.net/
(apparently they got their own bar)

http://freelancersirius.dk3.info/
(dead)

http://www.fl.jolt.co.uk/
(dead)

http://lancerquest.webs.com/
(no bar)

http://northquadrant.us/
(dead)

http://txr.gwcdata.com/forum/index.php?action=Home
(olympus fl complex, dead/no bar)

http://www.plasmafire.net/
(dead)

http://z11.invisionfree.com/Shadow_Work_Studios
(no bar)

http://freelancer-swwt.com/
(no bar)

http://www.galaxyserver.eu/
(no bar)

http://www.voidserver.com/
(no bar)

http://www.topfreelancers.net/
(no bar)


Clans

http://yakuza-clan.ch/
(dead)

http://reavers.forumclan.com/portal.htm
(dead)

http://www.lsf-hq.tk/
(no bar)

http://dkhive.warsforum.com/forum.htm
(no bar)

http://esfsite.own0.com/index.htm
(no bar)

http://esf-clan.editboard.com/forum.htm
(no bar)

http://thealliance.ipbfree.com/
(no bar)

http://z11.invisionfree.com/Immortals
(old forum and no bar at new forum)

http://lord.forumotion.com/
(no bar)

http://warhawks.ipbfree.com/
(no bar)

http://wolfsfree.de.gg/
(dead?)

http://smg.sivosten.com/
(no bar)

http://tceagles.mindless999.net/
(dead)

http://clan-union.ucoz.org/
(dead)

http://www.f-ti.gruppe04.de/
(no bar)

http://kirki.potheadz.net/
(no bar)

http://p-s.pytalhost.de/forum/
(dead / no bar)

http://www.sirius-terror-elite.de.tt/
(no bar)

http://altemaenner-clan.de/frame.htm
(no bar)

http://hwguide.ch/bas/imperium/index.html
(dead)


Posted on: 2010/6/23 1:30
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I realize that displaying the FLCN bar is a requirement for listing.

However, you know yourself that the bar has had a LOT of problems -- both in reliability and in performance.

The bar has a global audience. I know that you recently re-hosted on a higher-reliability server, but have you thoroughly tested performance on continents other than Europe?

I see some good Freelancer sites on your list who have removed the bar because of the issues. I wonder if it might be premature to remove those sites until they have had a good opportunity to test performance and observe reliability? I would think that could take several months, at least.

I mostly look at this from the user perspective, which is that the bar is most useful when it contains links to all of the good sites -- regardless of whether those sites display the bar or not.

Obviously, do what you think is right. I am just suggesting an alternate POV.






Posted on: 2010/6/23 1:53
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Apologies, I switched out for a different version of the theme when the bar stopped the site from loading. I've swapped the theme back to the original version now, and you should find the bar in working condition.

Thanks.

Posted on: 2010/6/23 2:39

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Quote:

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I realize that displaying the FLCN bar is a requirement for listing.

However, you know yourself that the bar has had a LOT of problems -- both in reliability and in performance.

The bar has a global audience. I know that you recently re-hosted on a higher-reliability server, but have you thoroughly tested performance on continents other than Europe?

I see some good Freelancer sites on your list who have removed the bar because of the issues. I wonder if it might be premature to remove those sites until they have had a good opportunity to test performance and observe reliability? I would think that could take several months, at least.

I mostly look at this from the user perspective, which is that the bar is most useful when it contains links to all of the good sites -- regardless of whether those sites display the bar or not.

Obviously, do what you think is right. I am just suggesting an alternate POV.


I see your point, but the mutual link exchange has been one of the key points since we started this.
Of course we had issues, but ever since the issues started, everybody had the "excuse" that the bar is not stable and therefore didnt show the bar.

Now, we cannot say "its okay" forever, thats why I made a somewhat ultimatum.

@DiscoUK; You may want to change the code to the new (more reliable) server/dns, see here:
http://the-starport.net/freelancer/news/article.php?storyid=166

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@Bullwinkle: First, w0dk4 said "next month", I think that's a pretty lax schedule and more than enough for everyone to get up to speed.

Second, we're speaking of a 5kb piece of JavaScript, not the new Amazon website. Any server, anywhere in the world, would be able to manage without noticeable delays, unless it is under attack (which is why we've moved the bar away from TSP's main host in the first place).

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I disagree on both points, Friendly: a month is not reasonable time to assess reliability, and it does not matter how large the script is if it takes two seconds to resolve and respond (and I am not saying that it does).

However, as I said, do what you think is right. It's your bar.



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i will see what i can do about the bar strange. indeed.ok i tried to fix it i see what happens tommorow. sometimes things break down at forummotion but it works on forum page

http://evilempirerevolution.forumotion.net/forum.htm

ok i copied and pasted the codes from the forums to the portal same thing i also copied and pasted the new code same thing. it could be something on forumotions side. but like i said the forums still has a working bar.

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Sorry about http://www.lsf-hq.tk/, we just updated to the new version of e107 yesterday and it seems to have killed the bar. I'll talk with our host to fix this problem as soon as possible.

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@Imperiumclan: WEll, I deleted the old site and created some kind of a placeholder:
http://hwguide.ch/bas/imperium/

However, the bar is present at the forums and I doubt that my placeholder-homepage will be used much anyways.

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The Frag-force.net bar includes Starport in it, does that count?

It isn't a FL site though....

Posted on: 2010/6/23 10:22
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update on the evil empire revolution i made it work. just had to remove the code from the body and give it its own box.

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Just a reminder for the sites still missing the bar, we will do a cleanup soon.

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The Frag-force.net bar includes Starport in it, does that count?

It isn't a FL site though....


The idea behind the bar is that you can reach every site from every site, therefore if everbody starts to make their own network bar, it kinda fails at that mission.

So, no, a link to Starport does not count because this is not about links to this site, but links to all the sites.

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hm... bar got killed while servermoving... ._.

new adress: www.phoenix-staffel.de with bar^^

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Just a reminder for the sites still missing the bar, we will do a cleanup soon.

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The Frag-force.net bar includes Starport in it, does that count?

It isn't a FL site though....


The idea behind the bar is that you can reach every site from every site, therefore if everbody starts to make their own network bar, it kinda fails at that mission.

So, no, a link to Starport does not count because this is not about links to this site, but links to all the sites.


This is all well and good, but we've been forwarding Freelancers to The Starport for a while now. The benefit that i see, with having our site on the network bar, is that we not only support Freelancer, we also support other games, which can also be a help to those who play more than just "Freelancer".

We have our own network bar, because we are involved in more than just one game. We decided that it was time to take things to the next level, involving more communities from a wider spectrum of games. Instead of having the narrow focus on Freelancer, we're supporting new release Space Simulation games, FPS games, RTS games etc.

We have a link to The Starport on our network bar, in return of the favour you were doing for us, by having Frag-Force on your bar.

Remove our link if you wish, that's fine by us. But in action, The Starport will be removed from the Frag-Force bar, and the Affiliates block, and we will no longer be forwarding Freelancers to this site.

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Do you not understand the purpose of this bar? This is not about The Starport, it's about the community as a whole. Linking to just this site is missing the point.

Posted on: 2010/7/14 2:22
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