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Thanks! Here is a video with settings for the reflections Skotty and I like: Link

Probably still not optimal, but I will leave it by that for now, since I plan to leave the settings to the people who configure the materials (which hopefully will not be me ).

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Yeah, that's introduced some different lighting issues now hasn't it, faces on the tanks are lit incorrectly with the bottom triangle of the face showing highlights and the top not, and large parts of the base showing highlights which should be in shadow at times. You've got your work cut out with this fella! Keep at it and you'll crack it eventually I'm sure.

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Those have been there all the time. The problem is with the tbn data in the models (I had written it in one of my last post somewhere ) There is a reason I said development will still take time I need to port the algorithm to correctly generate them, because I only have c++ code for now, but the UTF editor is c#. I only added a quick fix to correct much worse lighting problems like this: Open in new window

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I can, but I am not sure what you want to see there? You'll get me flying wild behind some ships

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I do not want to see - i want to feel and compare with vanilla
It is because when player going to complete missions - he is blind usually about game details. If he feels comfortable in this moment - then success

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Not talking about that stripe, are we watching the same video? I'm sure you can see far better than I can in a video though.

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It is the same cause, trust me Just wait until I fixed it and then you can nag if you see still see problems

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@Helloween: Sry, forgot to answer :/

I can make a video when everything works and I think I have a more final version. I don't know how much will still change. The game now looks again completely different than before a week ago and it is starting to look way better than I was expecting. But I can guarantee you, that the atmosphere has changed a lot. For example this is currently the station at planet Manhattan:

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Fort Bush also looks quite nice:
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Just had to step in to say that your work is awesome. Keep it up mate. I hope once you release the final version, other modders will work on it to improve it even further (if the renderer is capable of that, ofcourse). I wish you best of luck for your project. I hope we end up with graphics of FW:TOW but for vanilla. FF, wodk4, sizer and adoxa are helping you in it. That is how the FL community should be instead of modders having indifference and hostilities between them.

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Thanks for the kind words!

I don't think there are hostilities. FF helped me out with some offsets (e.g. shadows would not work otherwise) and all the .sur files of TOW should have been generated with my sur converter (if they did not change it).

My main issue is with the models and textures anyway. There are a few tough cases where the vanilla stuff did not age well. I hope there will be people who are willing to recreate the models and textures, but I am not too optimistic. At least mods can really improve their graphics, if they find the right models. I will probably write a new .cmp converter to make the conversion easier (no promises, but lots of code is already there).

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Yeah, I was about to say, the biggest problem is that most of FL's stuff aged poorly. The style was never great to begin with, but it doesn't fare well when you try to upres it. You'd need to redesign it entirely with FL's original style being more a spirit than anything else.

Also, you haven't even broached planets yet, which are a completely different game. You can't have modern looking models with FL's crummy planets.

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Not indifference between you and the FW:TOW team. I am talking about indifferences between other modders.

Anyway, I can help (I don't know 3d modelling and texturing (though i am learning it, which is hard)). If there are is any misc work you can tell me and I am sure there isn't a scarcity of talented people on the forums.

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@FF: Yeah, for planets I have some ideas, but we will see whether it will work. It won't be easy I guess.

@zebby: Sorry, then I misunderstood you. Also thanks for the offer. I think once I am far enough I might actually start asking for help and hope enough people respond. We will see

In the meantime for people who enjoy videos: Here is another one where I test exposure values for filmic tone mapping. I needed a GUI at this stage so now one also is included. Should come in handy I think. The tone mapping works surprisingly well for my taste (and others I have asked ). But I still need to apply it to the glow maps (windows etc) and effects, so they don't use it yet.

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Nice video. Keep up the work man. Enjoying it.

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Your last video was great, but left me with a few questions. Does it affect everything globally? i.e. asteroids, planets, etc. (the shadowing) Looks like you could do god rays if so. Have you imported anything with bump maps and spec maps? If so, how does it read them, meaning from the texture file. Did you have to make a different node for them in the mat file? How many light sources is the bump map affected by? Last, in the video at 0:05 when you dimmed it all the way down, can that been done just to the side facing away from the the light source, giving a realistic light effect? Just so only light maps are seen, not the stations textures.

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Uh, that are a lot of questions and I am not sure whether I understood everything correctly.

First of all, I don't do post-processing yet, but it will be included. That means the filmic tone mapping is then applied to the whole image (meaning exposure of zero results in a black image). And yes, god rays also are possible then, but with no atmosphere or a lot of small particles they don't make much sense. But I can try to implement them if there is a demand.

For now the textures are not in the mat files, but lie in three folders. One for normal, one for height maps and one for the (modified) SSBumps. The textures are loaded by file names. If you load a diffuse texture I look in the folders whether there is one with the same name and load it, too. I can extend the amount of maps later depending on what artists want (specular, reflective etc).

Light sources are the ones FL uses, so in this scene it is two. I've seen FL using more, but I did not investigate where the limit is, yet.

For the last one I could try some sort of screen space reflections, but no promises.

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