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[The Starport News]Recent Downtimes: Another HDD Failure
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Hey fellow veteran Freelancers

Our site was crashing a few times in the last weeks and we could identify a bad hard drive. The hard drive got replaced and we are up and running again - hopefully this was actually the reason for the crashes. Keep in mind we are already running on enterprise-class level hard drives so we cannot really improve this situation. But I guess our last HDD failure happened 3 years ago (wow time is running fast) so it's actually not too bad.

All the best,
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Posted on: 2017/12/4 11:17
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Much appreciated that you got it in the air again!

So, the https thing had nothing to do with it?


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Much appreciated that you got it in the air again!

So, the https thing had nothing to do with it?

I think HTTPS support here was largely a case of putting Cloudflare in front of the web server. Cloudflare was fine, the HDD problem was in normal the web server.

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Yeah, completely coincidental. This isn't the first time Hetzner's given us a shitty HDD, let's hope this new "enterprise" drive fares better.

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happens
I had 4 HDD crashes in just 3 years on my webserver.
Running 24/7 with lots of data isnt healthy to drives.

For gods sake there is Raid

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It's great that this time it wasn't a bad guy that did nasty things, but I hope it will not happen every 3 years, HDDs are meant to live 5 years for Google, and they works at their max level. If it happens once again you should buy a "Durability HDD" if this technology has improved, but it remains hard to tell when HDD will die. Mine is still running after nearly ten years despite the fact it's a Packard Bell OEM HDD (it's a Western Digital).

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sometimes its just bad luck

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RAID 1, hot-swap, etc?

EDIT: Hetzner from time to time gives bad drives...
Obviously need to check S.M.A.R.T. and fight with support

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Yeah, I largely blame Hetzner. Drives should last for way longer than this, but they're probably just slotting in used drives instead of fresh ones. Hopefully the "enterprise" drive is actually enterprise-rated and lasts longer.

w0d already checks SMART, but that won't tell you how far away it is from failing, just when it's already started failing.

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I'd suggest a RAID schema if RAID didn't stand for Really Asinine Investment in Disks. Thanks for some tips on what drives to look for in the future. With 5 drives on my system @ 15.5 TB I feel like I should buy stock in Newegg.

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Well, more downtimes and I just let the server get replaced except for the HDDs. If we get more downtimes, I'll also let them replace the HDDs again... ah well

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@ w0dk4
Besides the gateway errors I emailed you about I was surprised to find the download and wiki page came up okay.

Here the whole site just came up. Thanks.

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Wirdest thing ever like we use site to get server load high
I dont think HC FL server uses HDD so much to get drives down...

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Wirdest thing ever like we use site to get server load high
I dont think HC FL server uses HDD so much to get drives down...


Actually, the most traffic these days is caused by search engine bots crawling our site...

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Ah ! That was the reason I recently had some weird problem with the search engin !

I hope the site will not get other downtime, it's really annoying...

Where do the bots can come from ?

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