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Re: A German Language Question
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Aigle1707, as a native speaker of German, already answered it better than I can, but I must say that all the German words with Bundes- (though literally meaning Federal like Aigle1707 says) do seem to have some connotation of specifically refering to the BRD (Bundesrepublik Deutschlands), just like words starting with Reichs- (literally meaning Imperial) specifically refered to the German Reich.


That is right. Bundes- goes for post-1949 west Germany and post-1990 unified Germany. Reichs- is more complicated though as it can refer to the 1871-1918 German Empire, the 1919-1933 Weimar Republic (Officially still bearing the name "Deutsches Reich" although it was a republic) and the 1933-1945 Nazi dictatorship.

So as you see, we're not very good at naming our states accurately.

Regarding the FL version, I've always had the English version installed for about two years now but I think the majority of German players uses the German version.

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I didn't know the Weimar Republik was still officially called 'Deutsches Reich'. Interesting fact to learn! An empire without an emperor - that's asking for trouble!

Btw I found an oddity in the infocards too:
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The Bundschuh are a populist political faction that has been declared "enemy of the State" by the Rheinland Reichstag.
'Bundestag' would be more appropriate, imho.

And I know for 99.99% sure that I (that is to say, Trent) encountered a Rheinlander who spoke of 'when the Reich will rise again' or something like it but I cannot find it with FLED-ids.

Oh well, that was years ago and back then I thought playing Freelancer and smoking pot combined very well (especially during those long trade routes), so maybe it was just my imagination * I also thought the commodity dealer at Planet Juno looked really like a human/fish hybrid (I wondered weather DA threw in some of HPL's Shadow over Innsmouth)

*(I still wouldn't argue against this opinion. It's more that my girlfriend won't allow it )

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Btw I found an oddity in the infocards too:
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The Bundschuh are a populist political faction that has been declared "enemy of the State" by the Rheinland Reichstag.
'Bundestag' would be more appropriate, imho.

Not necessarily! What is interesting is that (as far as I can remember) Rheinland was an empire until the end of the 80-years war when the population started a revolution and overthrew the emperor. This is a parallel to the end of World War I when the same happened in Germany. Since Rheinland hasn't had another revolution between the end of the empire and the time FL is set in, my best guess is that it is supposed to be a depiction of Germany between 1919 and 1933. And considering the overall political situation plus the design of the other three houses, this could very well be. Btw, the building where the Bundestag meets is still called the Reichstag, this is because the parliament got its name from the building and in 1949 they simply removed Reichs- and added Bundes-. Unimaginative those Germans are

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@ Aigle1707 - Again, interesting to learn! Didn't know that (about the Reichstag).

Btw the prefix Reichs- also occurs in Dutch in the form of "Rijks-", meaning (referring to or belong to) the highest national authorities: Rijkspolitie, Rijksweg, Rijksoverheid etc. Sofar I've never seen this exploited into a Godwin by the resident anarchist/leftwing protest scene I wonder whether this would change if the Netherlands would become a republic (again). I don't think anybody feels 'rijks-' implies a monarch; at least I don't.

Yeah Rheinland is indeed modelled after some Pre-WW2 version of Germany, and the other Houses are retro too. A bit weird maybe, but I think DA looked to the European colonization of the Earth, and how places in the new world(s) were often named after those in the familiar old World.

Except for Jupiter, Florida

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For you another one: In english (I think) the military is called "Rheinland Military". The german term "Rheinwehr" would fit even better, because the name of the german military ever had a "Wehr" in it (Reichswehr, Wehrmacht, Bundeswehr).

I think The Ministry of Truth in the campaign was just part of the dictatorship and removed after the end of the Nomad war.

Call your secret Service just "Rheinländischer Nachrichtendienst" (military and civil) or "Rheinländischer Abschirmdienst" (just military).

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For you another one: In english (I think) the military is called "Rheinland Military". The german term "Rheinwehr" would fit even better, because the name of the german military ever had a "Wehr" in it (Reichswehr, Wehrmacht, Bundeswehr).)


Nice one. I wonder how it's called in the German version? EDIT: Or do you mean this IS the name used in the German language version?

Btw the genral word for 'army' in Afrikaans (the South African language closely related to Dutch, and largely but not exclusively derrived of Dutch) is 'weermag'

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I think The Ministry of Truth in the campaign was just part of the dictatorship and removed after the end of the Nomad war.

Call your secret Service just "Rheinländischer Nachrichtendienst" (military and civil) or "Rheinländischer Abschirmdienst" (just military).

Thanks, but I already picked Rheinländische Geheimdienst. For some reason, it gives me an impression of Herr Oberinspektor Stephan Derrick in Space

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You forgot an 'r' Rheinländischer Geheimdienst
I hope the spelling is right in the mod

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You forgot an 'r' Rheinländischer Geheimdienst
I hope the spelling is right in the mod

Yes it is, thanks for the reminder tho

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The Ministry of Truth?

Is this a new FL sp campaign or sth like that?

And yeah, Rheinland Military is named Rheinwehr in the German version.

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The Ministry of Truth wishes to remind Rheinland citizens that all of the news and information coming through the official channels is personally viewed by our Chancellor. If he watches, shouldn’t you?


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Elsewhere in the colonies, news of the Liberty President’s political troubles has been utterly suppressed by the "iron fist of the Liberty media machine." We are grateful to the Chancellor and the Ministry of Truth for their tireless commitment to the freedom of information that we enjoy here in Rheinland.


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Officials inside the Ministry of Truth say that there is every reason to believe that President Jacobi has fallen victim to a coup. The military leadership that is acting in her absence has full control of the government and is considering action against Kusari.



Only mentioned three times, in news articles that show up when you're in Rheinland I assume.

Maybe has a different name in the german version? Interested to hear what.

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Wahrheitsministerium I think.
= Truth Ministry (literally)

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Hmm.
Has a pretty badass ring to it, from an English perspective.

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Yeah tis the same in German, sounds like pure propaganda, but that's the message they wanted to bring across.^^

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