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Milkshape & Plugins - Latest/Best versions and where to get them
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This thread aims to have an overview of all the necessary and/or convenient plugins to use MilkShape for creating and modifying Freelancer models.

@ Sushi: Thanks for moving this thread to the appropriate subforum!

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Quoting StarTrader from this post:

I'm using the latest MilkShape 1.8.5 beta.

It is working fine in XP with all these plugins -

CMP Importer v3 and the new ones from adoxa and P1p3r
CMP Exporter v3
SUR Importer v1.2.0
SUR Exporter v1.1 (don't use 1.2, it's more buggy).
MAT Exporter V1
3DB Exporter (no version mentioned)

and also ConVex Tool and ConVexTool1 which are used to make convex sur parts manually.

No crashes.


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Quarks wrote, in the 6th post in this thread:
I use (on Vista):
MS3d 1.8.2
CMP Importer 2.7
CMP Exporter 0.3
MAT Exporter 0.1
SUR Exporter 1.1



Now, let's get all these neatly into one thread. I'll update this post when/if necessary. Please provide info if there are newer/better versions, if certain versions are to be avoided etc.


Milkshape


Milkshape can, of course, be downloaded (and purchased) at its creator's site Chumbalum.SwissQuake.ch

NB Any additional info, what Milkshape versions work under what wIndows versions, and compatibility of the plugins can also be posted into this thread



CMP Importer


Milkshape 3D CMP Importer v2.7, dating from September 07, 2008, can be downloaded from the TSP download section

I cannot find a newer version. Anyone?

EDIT: I just (18th of december, 2016) found out that, under Windows 10, 2.7 doesn't work (tested on Milkshape 1.8.4 but I presume Win10, not MS3D, is the problem) . It makes Milkshape crash as soon as the file to import is selected.



SUR Importer


SUR Importer 1.2.0 can be downloaded from Adoxa's site



CMP Exporter

Version 0.3 is the one we need, and it can be found
on the EAO web site, and in the download section of The Starport

As StarTrader points out in post #7 in this thread, it might be necessary to correct some hardpoints in the exported model with HardCMP, of which version 1.0.0.23 can be found in the download section of The Starport; there are other versions as well but I assume 1.0.0.23 is the latest and recommended release.



SUR Exporter


SUR Exporter 1.1 can be downloaded from the TSP download section

SUR Exporter 1.3 can be downloaded from Adoxa's site


MAT Exporter


MAT Exporter v0.1, released on February 23, 2004, can be downloaded from the EOA web site. Is there a newer version is this one just fine?
EDIT: the EOA site seems down... Let us hope this is a temporary issue. Meanwhile, the .MAT exporter can be found here



3DB Exporter


3DB Exporter v1.0.0.1, released on October 22, 2005, can be downloaded from the EOA web site. Is there a newer version is this one just fine?
While EOA remain down, the 3DB exporter here!, thanks to Thaddeus.



ConVex Tool

Some info by its creator and a download link for
ConVex Tool can be found here. I assume ConVexTool1 is an updated version but I can't find anything on it (Google renders 4 hits, one of them leading to StarTrader's post I quoted above, and three false ones).



Please note that many of the necessary plugins mentioned in this post, can also be found at LancerSolurus's site Digital Brilliance

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There are also a max2ms3d_v110 and a max2ms3d_v112 in the download section. There is no info on these downloads, but Gisteron explains these plugins are for 3DS Max to export ms3d files.

Which version is recommended?

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milkshape can import 3ds files (buggy?). these plugins are for max to export ms3d files.

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Quote:

Gisteron wrote:
milkshape can import 3ds files (buggy?). these plugins are for max to export ms3d files.
Thanks, I've updated the subscription.

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*moved to appropriate forum*

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I use (on Vista):
MS3d 1.8.2
CMP Importer 2.7
CMP Exporter 0.3
MAT Exporter 0.1
SUR Exporter 1.1

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Good post Moonhead.

CMP Exporter

Yes it is v0.3, however the dll is named msCMPExporterv3.dll

Here is the file:-
http://the-starport.net/freelancer/do ... lefile.php?cid=5&lid=1652

There are several others but if I remember they are not final versions, and have bugs. This one is not causing me any problems.

Note:- you have to fix the hardpoint orientations because although the exporter aligns them with the surface plane quite nicely, when you view them in HardCMP they appear squashed instead of a cube - just click the Edit button and then retype one of the orientation values and click Validate. If its correct, fine, or you can move it easily. Remember also that HardCMP sometimes makes duplicate hardpoints! So recheck your cmp file in HardCMP after saving it.

ConVexTool

Yes there are two versions.

One of them has no dialog, it just creates the convex shape.

The other one opens a small dialog window where you can put a number. This version allows you to specify how far away from the original shape's surface you want the new convex shape to be.

Since we want a tight-fitting one, this is not needed and is an extra click I didn't want. Decide which one you want to use, both produce the same shape.

By the way - you can edit the ConVexTool .dll file and replace the word "_convex" with "_lod1" so your sur parts are named correctly and automatically right away. Just replace the extra letters with whatever code comes after the letter "x" in the original file.

SURExporter

Be sure to use v1.1 and NOT v1.2, because v1.2 is a test version using a different formula and creates more bad surs than v1.2.

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@about cmp exporter 3:

It's the "Y" orientation the one that has problems. If value is 0, then np. But for other values, plus is minus and minus is plus. Just delete the "-" if it's negative or add a minus if it's positive.

Also the size multiplier doesn't work fine (actually, I think it doesn't work )
If you import a model and you don't resize it 100 times bigger (or 92, not sure), instead of a model you'll have a spot. ;P

And coordinates names are different as in MS3D. X, Y, and Z are Y, Z, and X.

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with the 0.3 exporter all you need is saving the options and restarting the exporter before you save the cmp. and the axises are physically correct in ms3d, just the same in most other programs and their order the same in FL.

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Hash - do you need a memory rehash? I think you are referring to HardCMP for the X Y and Z axes?

MilkShape and the exporter use the same axes as FL.

And the cmp importer scale is correct.

But there is one bug in CMP Exporter v0.3 that everyone should know about already. It is the scaling (Scale Down).

If you set it to anything other than the default (92), it will not save the new scale, but always exports at 1/92 scale.

To "fix" this you must Save Settings or Load Settings after you change the scale.

In any case, Scale Down = 1 is the same size as FL scale.

In other words 1 MilkShape unit = 1 FL Metre so set Scale Down = 1 and Save Settings before exporting.

Don't believe me? Import the pilot model and check its size in MS units. Export it with scale Down = 1 as a new model and re-import it.

Also, always export Back-to-Front, not Upside Down.

Note: when you import from 3DS Max and some other modellers the model may be facing into the ground! Easy to correct

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Thanks for the additions everyone. I've updated the main post where necessary and/or possible.

If anyone has anything relevant about Milkshape and its plugins or related tools, please post it in this thread. It might help newbies to get started.

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Colin provided me with the source to the 1.1 sur exporter, so I've done a quick update and released 1.3.

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With version 1.76 i know it definately won't work. Suppose i really should upgrade my MS.

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Here's a MAT exporter for 3ds max 9. The source is on the forge if anyone wants to recompile it for another version of max. It should recompile with no problems as far as I know.

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20309717/maxMATExporter.rar

I've not really tested it all that much so I don't know if there's any problems.

Right now it will do:

the default textures.

Glass opacity and diffuse.

Light Maps <- done by adding the self-illum texture to the self-illum texture slot in max.

and Two Sided textures by clicking the 2 sided texture box int the mat editor.

All should work without having to edit the mat file after.

You may need vcredist_x86 to use it.

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Turns out I was a little too quick, so 1.3 has been refreshed.

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