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Re: how do you make flzip with windows 7
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you have a point there xp is deffinately the best os that windows came out with. when i made this computer it was to replace my vista but the os did not work because i changed the motherboard with a better one. so i bought a new hard drive and formated the old one and use it as a slave drive. windows xp is really hard to find these days and when i tried to put windows xp pro on my computer i got errors and the install would not complete. one thing about 7 is that its 100% better than vista 100 time more stable.

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You've always been antiquated ST

Go back to play with your mainframes

Windows 7 is probably the best Windows OS, or at least a tie with XP. It's a proper evolution and finally a good upgrade path for die-hard XP fans.

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guess its time to hack that IPv6 problem. is there any chance to figure out how to hack freelancer to use this protocol or any protocol?

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Ubuntu > 7

Why do you want to, Gisteron?

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well i can tell you this. all i did was uncheck the ip6 thingy and i have been runing the evil empire revolution server off my windows 7 it even shows up on the globel list. i use the cheaters death kite 1.32 on it and it works.

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You've always been antiquated ST

Go back to play with your mainframes

Windows 7 is probably the best Windows OS, or at least a tie with XP. It's a proper evolution and finally a good upgrade path for die-hard XP fans.


Just being sardonic.

You are quite right, W7 is the best so far but has some annoying quirks and plain sillies in it that need get-arounds to be worked out.

And the problem in retro Windows like XP is lack of drivers for the new motherboards, processors and other components, so W7 is the only way forward with new technology PCs.

My beloved mainframes are now just fading photos. <ST's ears droop and he sighs>

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And the problem in retro Windows like XP is lack of drivers for the new motherboards, processors and other components, so W7 is the only way forward with new technology PCs.

Linux?

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The Year of the Linux Desktop is still quite a way away, despite my best wishes for the platform. Sadly, drivers and games are what's killing it, as more often than not I want to play games every once in a while and half the time wireless drivers don't work on laptops.

@ST: Don't forget x64; XP 64-bit is... Let's say not too good. And I'm sure you can find mainframe emulators on the web

Posted on: 2010/7/12 2:38
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Re: how do you make flzip with windows 7
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it is sensible to get FL to IPv6, as most other programs will run on it soon. approx. in three years all XP world will be running with win7 and everything that cannot will either die out or remain with people like us, who are interested in that while the common user will get to something new. kinda question of survival, you know...

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The Year of the Linux Desktop is still quite a way away, despite my best wishes for the platform. Sadly, drivers and games are what's killing it, as more often than not I want to play games every once in a while and half the time wireless drivers don't work on laptops.

Well, many Windows applications, including games, do also run at Linux with the compability layer Wine ( = Wine is not an emulator).
Plus: You can also setup a dual boot. I have done this but I have never used XP since I installed Ubuntu.
The support from companies for Linux isn't SUCH high yet, but it is a way more than some years ago. I definitivly see an upcoming trend/t for Linux. It might take 5+ years, but the trend is there. Linux also gets used more and more in schools, universities and so on.


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@ST: Don't forget x64; XP 64-bit is... Let's say not too good. And I'm sure you can find mainframe emulators on the web

Hm, have heard this already a few times, a friend of mine does say that the 64 bit support isn't worse than Vista's/7's, though. Dunno what is correct.

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XP 64-bit was half-assed, late-coming and generally horrible. Vista and particularly 7 have full x64 support out of the box and work great; most manufacturers release both x86 and x64 drivers for these OS.

And please don't kid yourself, Wine isn't an alternative. I don't want to get a 50% FPS hit just to run on Linux, sorry, and that's when the game even works.

Same for dual booting really, sounds great initially but the shutdown/startup process is far too long and cumbersome. You always end up picking one OS and only logging on that one. Except I still want to play games without lag and/or bugs, so I picked Windows. Didn't you say you don't even have FL running yet?

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XP 64-bit was half-assed, late-coming and generally horrible. Vista and particularly 7 have full x64 support out of the box and work great; most manufacturers release both x86 and x64 drivers for these OS.

And please don't kid yourself, Wine isn't an alternative. I don't want to get a 50% FPS hit just to run on Linux, sorry, and that's when the game even works.

Same for dual booting really, sounds great initially but the shutdown/startup process is far too long and cumbersome. You always end up picking one OS and only logging on that one. Except I still want to play games without lag and/or bugs, so I picked Windows. Didn't you say you don't even have FL running yet?

Eh, I haven't re-tried for a while

Well, I didn't say that all games work perfectly or well enough to be played with wine, but some do!
Examples are, for instance, WoW, Warcraft III, Guild Wars...
I don't claim all games work with wine, but it definitivly can't be said that no game runs with it.

DB: Ok, this might be true, but if you have the ressources (means, a newer PC) it might be worth to take it into consideration.

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My PC's got a compatibility issue with the GPU making it take around 2 minutes to boot instead of 30 seconds. No, not happening.

And all the games you're listing are old games that would run well on just about any configuration. Go ahead and try playing Crysis or Mass Effect 2 or Metro 2033 on Wine.

Posted on: 2010/7/12 16:58
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And all the games you're listing are old games that would run well on just about any configuration. Go ahead and try playing Crysis or Mass Effect 2 or Metro 2033 on Wine.

What do you mean by "any configuration"? The software (wine in this case) needs to be written, to what are you referring to? It is not a matter of course that windows software runs at a totally different OS.
Plus for old games, this is of course the case since it takes time to build wine. In short: The older and the more popular a game the higher is the chance that it will work with wine.


Metro 2033:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19666


Silver rating.

ME 2:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19125

Silver rating.

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WoW runs on netbooks. Warcraft 3 too. Guild Wars runs on any computer released within the last 7 years. My point is that even if you get a 50% hit, going from 200FPS to 100FPS is unnoticeable.

But going from 30 to 15 is horrible. The Wine people purposefully avoid speaking of benchmarks because it is IMPOSSIBLE not to get a performance hit, and for games that already cause lag on Windows, it can be a make or break issue.

Even Linux diehards agree that it isn't for games.

Posted on: 2010/7/12 18:06
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