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Re: Slow Loading / Timeouts
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1. The video link is not broken. Its working and still used on various other sites.
2. It was not just one member which tried to direct TLR members to TSP and it wouldnt have been the first time that this happened over there (if you remember this is how TSP was created)
3. Maybe you should ask Huor on such matters. He will tell you how rights on website content is transfered from one site owner to another and that it doesnt matter which domain extension the site has. But you also could read on that. There are enough sources on the net. Next to that didnt we receive anything from worfeh when we started to rebuild the TLR databases. We were pretty much able to reconstruct it from our own sources (which btw. explains how we reconstructed the entire TLR databases and not just a few posts and threads).
Funny is actually that you blame us for not allowing links to TSP while you are not willing to link to TLR aswell. What motivation do we at TLR have to allow it when we can not even expect same rights?

Well ok, I see that you are not willing to resolve anything. Goodbye, we see us in a few weeks when the next unreasonable claims against my sites appear here.

Posted on: 2011/6/7 9:09
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Re: Slow Loading / Timeouts
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w0dk4 - i can understand that and i am sorry to hear that TSP is still victim of the attacks.

However the topic Azza is done for me. I asked him for TLR and I asked him to stop the attacks against the FL communities involved. Up to now he has kept his word and actually I havent seen him since november 2010.
Next to that AzzA never was the kind of guy which did hide from anything. When he ddosed you then he told you right in the face.

Probably he still does the attacks but he doesnt hide at TLR.

@sushi, who of the staff did something is not my problem,
fact is only that it was done and that it was one of our reasons.
I can understand and accept it is possible that news submission did not work due to a software failure. Ok, that happens. We couldnt know that and obviously you didnt notice it aswell for at least 1 1/2 years.

@Kazinsal
Do you really think it would be possible to disallow every eventuality that might be misunderstood by readers? If you start writing rules for everything that might happen or that might be said then you end up with a rulebook of thousands of pages. TSP also has no mechanism which would prevent such sort of stuff. The only thing an admin can do in such a situation is react (which I did btw.). Illegal activities itself are not allowed and prohibited by our rules.

Posted on: 2011/6/6 22:33
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Re: Slow Loading / Timeouts
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To answer your question.
1. Because of TSP users which recently came to TLR and started to post links to TSP on every occasion eventhough the same topics and files could be found at TLR + their try to redirect TLR members to TSP.
2. Because of the removal of certain items from TSP -> such as the Crossfire video
3. Because of meanwhile 2 news items which never got the chance to be posted here.
4. Because also dont allow linking to TLR when people asked old FL related topics. You linked to the FL Archives instead to TLR where these "archives" originally come from.

Just to sum up. We had reasons and we have just set up the limitation a few weeks ago as reaction to the previously stated reasons.
The only linking that was allowed from here to TLR/SWAT is that small button on the left of this site. That is about the same that we have on our sites.

Posted on: 2011/6/6 22:19
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Maybe I wasnt the only person showing a negative attitudes towards other people. I remember getting at least the same amount thrown into my direction but ok, things happened. One word leads to another and everything leads to a big mess. However, negativity doesnt get anyone banned, broken rules (by purpose) do. Thats why one TSP admin was banned. For the other 3 bans I apologize.
Their appearance at TLR after almost 3 years not being there and just at a time that another TSP admin decided to break the forum rules in alphabetical order looked kinda "weird".

I am not 100% why you think that weird jokes about other people or sites just happen at TLR. Infact it was the very first time that something like that happened since I am owner of that site. Next to that I only would need to browse through the recent threads about DVDMan/Polarbear to find 2-3 weird comments about TLR and SWAT.

Question would be how to prevent such stuff in future in the interest of both sides.

Posted on: 2011/6/6 21:27
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Re: Slow Loading / Timeouts
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Yes, you are banned.

Explaination:
In november 2010 (about 1 week after I got TLR from its previous owners) four TSP admins suddenly appeared at TLR (probably as reaction of a mass mailing to inform the TLR members about the changes). One of them started to open threads and started flaming TLR, its old owners and the new ones. Banning that TSP admin succeeded only after the IP was banned as multiple accounts (6) were created by that guy that evening.
Banning the other TSP admins was a preventional measurement as we assumed they would start similar behaviour due to their appearance at TLR right at the same time. Since that the bans remained active.

If our judgement that day was wrong and the three remaining TSP admins did not mean to cause any harm then Id like to officially apologize to them.
(and of course will unban them if they wish)

And now a few words to the ddos stuff and pointing to one of my sites and one of my teams.
Now seriously... does it always have to start this way?
You see something and one moment later you point your finger either to me, my communities, my team... or whatever. Last time it was the tutorial issue that i proved to be wrong... now its ddos attacks. Every 2 months such a crap... thats annoying. It doesnt lead to anything good. So can we please stop this crap?

With the day that Ive taken control over TLR the attacks from there stopped.
You know very well that my own community was victim of the ddos attacks due to my support to TSP during the first year of its existence. I still remember all the nights that I talked with worfeh about these issues and how to stop them. I have never condone such methods nor will I allow it in future.
We have no interest in damaging TSP, we actually have no interest in doing harm to any FL community. That would be pretty much like shoting in the own foot.

You can consider Folgores statement about ddos as serious as the "•Get OP Skype for his Birthday, if not, gift him a time-bomb" that was said at the same post -> a weird joke

The TLR staff and modding teams consists of people from various FL communities. Some of them are regular users and well respected members of TSP. It makes not much sense that these people would cause harm to this place, dont you agree? I also vouch for Folgores integrity as he would not even consider to damage his good reputation as developer of various mods in different games.

If someone is attacking TSP then someone else is doing it (I would not want to point my finger on someone as I could not prove it).

TSP represents a big part of the FL community. So does TLR/SWAT. All troubles between our communities cause damage to FL. Nobody of us wants that. I can understand that personal grudges have a big weight but they harm both communities and finally the players. We should at least try to get along.

Posted on: 2011/6/6 20:19
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Re: Is it hard to mod? What basic knowledge do you need to have?
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ah I see, all the bashing before was ok
but defending from false claims and showing the truth is not ok... thats drama then?
how about not bringing up such a crap in first place and finally playing fair?

@chips
thx for your try to clear up the situation, I appreciate that

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Re: Is it hard to mod? What basic knowledge do you need to have?
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why would i justify myself to ppl which host the entire lancersreactor database here without permission of the owner of that site (me)

that copy/pasting happens even from my sites to tsp can be seen on page 2 of this thread

furthermore just like chips mentioned at this point of time TLR was down and TSP was not even known so the SWAT Portal was the only place for archiving such stuff (and from what I remember a fairly large part of the freelancer community took advantage of the services that i offered and still offer)
AND I never claimed that this is my tutorial, everyone who has read the thread on my site would know that the "by SWAT_OP-R8R" is not even part of that thread
I have never claimed that this is my tutorial

I wish ppl would stop searching for reasons to constantly put false blames on me or bring up this personal crap over and over again (thats meanwhile the 3rd time in just one week that either my work or I get blamed/attacked for no reason from the same direction - thats pretty sick)

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no I usually get pointed to such threads as I am busy enough with other FL communities

@w0dk4
I was not defending Azza but I was defending one of my communities which falsely got dragged into your problems. I clearly do not care about his current status here at TSP in the same way you didnt care about the fact that he was not active at TLR for more than 3 months when you wrote your comment about TLR.
I would gladly appreciate when you deal with your problems without involving other communities which have nothing to do with that anymore.
Thank you.

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... which both have nothing to do with TLR for quiet some time. TLR and its related communities have absolutely no interest in the conflicts you might have with these guys nor do we wish to get falsely accused of something we are not even involved with.
You might probably also consider the fact that Azza is as much registered member of TSP as he is registered member on other FL communities.

Posted on: 2011/1/25 18:31
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would you please leave TLR out of this
nobody from there is attacking anyone
thx

Posted on: 2011/1/25 16:29
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Re: Brrr and wut wit TLR?
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hmm k

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Re: Brrr and wut wit TLR?
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Difference between bp and me is that bp was not owner to TLR since 2007. He handed over the ownership to others (which as we know give damn about legal rights). During the past 3 years bp wasnt able to get TLR back but failed as he had no rights on it anymore.
Redundancy is good.
The redundancy is also not the problem as you can keep the data and host it again if things go wrong. What im trying to do at TLR with that data is not only hosting a "dead" (read-only) image of what it once was but a fully functional version that really can be used. In my eyes this would be very beneficial for FL players aswell as modders. Plus there is the fact that this fully functional database can be easily used to bring back old players and new ones aswell (TLR has a pretty good number of daily visitors).


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Re: Brrr and wut wit TLR?
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Your Representations. By applying to register a domain name, or by asking us to maintain or renew a domai n name registration, you hereby represent and warrant to us that (a) the statements that you made in your Registration Agre ement are complete and accurate; (b) to your knowledge, the registration of the domain name will not infringe upon or other wise violate the rights of any third party; (c) you are not registering the domain name for an unlawful purpose; and (d) yo u will not knowingly use the domain name in violation of any applicable laws or regulations. It is your responsibility to d etermine whether your domain name registration infringes or violates someone else's rights.

The domain owner is always the one that is responsible for what is hosted on his/her domain. I can tell that by experience and because it is a written policy. Huor btw. also has forced me to remove some stuff from one of my domains some time ago (but we were never close to dealing it at a court).
Most likely situation that happens before anybody ends up in a court room is that the ISP that runs the server cancels the contract due to a violation of the contract terms. -> wouldnt be the first time that it happens in FL (eventhough it did not happen not a single time in the past 5 years).

Yes you are right FF, modding is illegal based on the EULA. That Microsoft actually as no problem with modding is shown by the fact that they link to modding sites and have hosted the biggest Lancer modding community and supported that community for 7 long years. No-CDs are not illegal. You can meanwhile (for 4 years) buy Freelancer CDs which inlcude no copy protection. Dunno about hooking... but I would put it in the same category as modding.

My request to get the archives only hosted at the site that they came from is based on obligations that i have to fulfill as new owner of that site, that these +20.000 TLR members have once registered on and agreed to submit their posts. This is about being able to fulfill my duty regarding this content, which is hard to do when it is hosted somewhere else.
I dont want to limit the access to the data, that is not my intention. I have not asked you to transfer anything to me (as this is not required) nor have i asked you to delete it entirely, so you can put it back online if I fail with TLR (or if you wish also if you think i broke my work regarding this database). You have in fact nothing to loose by agreeing to this deal, but both sides would win.

@chips
godaddy is a domain registrar, not a registrant/domain owner
if i recall right its the worlds biggest domain registrar
it hold no rights on those domains but i see that you know that already eventhough i am not quiet sure if i should laugh about the joke now (ill probably decide about that tomorrow)

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Re: Brrr and wut wit TLR?
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the domain tells something different
Quote:
Domain Services Provided By:
domain.com,
http://www.domain.com

Registrant:
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Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: THE-STARPORT.NET
Created on: 11-FEB-08
Expires on: 12-FEB-11
Last Updated on: 12-FEB-10

Administrative, Technical Contact:
Roberson, Gary
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Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.MDNS.NL
NS2.MDNS.NL

Reading the ISP policies btw. helps

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Re: Brrr and wut wit TLR?
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why would i need such a tool when i have the original databases which are currently being integrated into TLR again?

either we can make a deal and stop this misery once and forever or we continue this crap with all its consequences (which of course is not your problem as cheeseontoast is the guy which is responsible for the data hosted here)

look
agree to the deal and all troubles between our communities are gone, furthermore you can take benefit from all the work we do at TLR

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